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Two Unions Prepare For Next Week’s Vote

by Hugh McQuaid | Jul 23, 2012 2:31pm
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Union literature distributed to correction workers

Supervisors in the Correction Department, one of two bargaining units to reject last summer’s state employee concession package, will be voting next Monday and Tuesday on whether to replace the union that currently represents them.

An estimated 500 captains and lieutenants in the Correction Department are currently represented by CSEA/SEIU Local 2001. But next week they will be voting at correctional institutions across the state on whether to replace CSEA/SEIU Local 2001 with the National Correction Employees Union.

The election comes as a result of a Labor Relations Board decision earlier this month, which found that the petitions submitted by the United Public Service Employees Union on behalf of five bargaining groups was not filed in a timely manner. But the labor board ruled in favor of the NCEU regarding the correctional supervisors because the bargaining unit voted the 2011 concession package down, leaving the captains and lieutenants without a current contract.

The ruling came after months of contentious hearings at the Labor Department’s headquarters in Newington, during which the state and incumbent unions argued that the incoming unions had missed their deadline to hold an election. In the case of the correctional officers bargaining unit, the board found that to be the case.

The supervisors will head to the polls next week to decide whether to replace their leadership with the Massachusetts-based NCEU. Both sides have been reaching out to members of the bargaining unit in advance of the vote.

Christopher Murphy, executive director of NCEU, said representatives of his union have been standing outside each of the state’s correctional facilities since last week engaging prospective members. They’ve also been sending out mailers to their home addresses.

So far, Murphy said they’ve gotten very positive feedback.

“People want change. They’re looking for a union that will provide them with better representation,” he said.

Murphy said the members NCEU have heard from are still upset over the State Employee Bargaining Agent Coalition deal from last summer. He said he’s expecting a positive outcome in the election despite the efforts of the incumbent union.

“The current union is doing scare tactics, saying they will lose their contracts and benefits. We know it’s not true. Hopefully they don’t fall prey to that,” Murphy said.

Ben Phillips, spokesman for CSEA/SEIU Local 2001, said that was not true. Representatives have been telling members they will lose their contracts if they vote to have no union representation, which is one the options on the ballot, he said.

They’ve also been stressing to members that NCEU has no experience representing Connecticut state employees, Phillips said.

“We don’t really see them as someone who should be representing state workers,” he said. 

Phillips said members have gotten over the anger that surrounded last summer’s contract negotiations. It was during that period that NCEU successfully acquired enough signatures from members to petition the labor board for an election.

“It was a unique moment in time, it happened in the middle of contentious negotiations surrounding the contract. That’s passed. People realize they have strong union backing. We haven’t seen any support for the opposition,” he said.

Phillips said CSEA/SEIU Local 2001 is looking forward to getting back to negotiating a contract for the bargaining unit. The negotiation process was put on hold while members decide who will represent them.

CSEA/SEIU is hoping to use the election to get its members engaged for the upcoming contract negotiations with the state, Phillips said.


Monday, July 30

Bridgeport Correctional Center (Bridgeport)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Brooklyn Correctional Lobby (Brooklyn)
10:30 am – 12:00 pm

Corrigan Building Lobby (Uncasville)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Garner Correctional Institution (Newtown)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Maloney Center For Training (Cheshire)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Tuesday, July 31

Central Transportation Unit (Enfield)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Hartford Correctional Center Lobby (Hartford)
7:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

New Haven Correctional Center Lobby (New Haven)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

Walker Building Lobby (Suffield)
6:00 am - 9:00 am 2:30 pm - 5:00 pm

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posted by: Major Shmuck | July 23, 2012  2:56pm

Major Shmuck

Major Shmuck say,  ” Vote YES, and get the heck out while you can because this will be your only shot to get out”!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted by: Upset.Citizen | July 23, 2012  3:12pm


These two statements alone tell you which way to vote!

“The current union is doing scare tactics, saying they will lose their contracts and benefits. We know it’s not true. Hopefully they don’t fall prey to that,” Murphy said.

Ben Phillips, spokesman for CSEA/SEIU Local 2001, said that was not true.

As a P4 SEIU/CSEA member I was mailed post cards with scare tactics, misquotes, and statements that were utter lies from SEIU/CSEA! 

What NCEU/Murphy said is what they did to us! 

You all know what SEIU/CSEA told you and what they sent you and now they deny it! 

Would you trust SEIU/CSEA if they told you, ‘The last offer the state made is the best we will get, vote for it’?  You didn’t last summer, don’t do it now!

UPSEU (sister union to NCEU) was always truthful and factual!  Run to NCEU while you can, the only garantee you will get from SEIU/CSEA is that they will keep you from leaving in the future!

You lucky, lucky people!
Vote NCEU!


posted by: rankandfile | July 23, 2012  5:20pm

It must be nice to even have a free choice…

posted by: andygayle | July 23, 2012  7:58pm

Do what Major Shmuck says, Vote YES and get rid of that union that gave everything away.

posted by: perturbed | July 23, 2012  10:00pm


Congratulations to the captains and lieutenants in the Corrections Department!

Man, do I envy your position. You deserve it though—you had the guts to vote down a contract someone else wrote and tried to force down your throats. I hope you realize how valuable it is for you to get this vote. (Some of us are still fighting for that right.)

Don’t waste this opportunity. If you had attended any of the hearings at the Labor Board you would have seen how dead serious SEIU is to keep you all locked down, while your dues keep flowing into their bank account. Throughout the whole process, not once did they mention looking forward to working for you. No, all they wanted to talk about at the hearings was petty technicalities and Attachment H, the lie that they inserted into our contract after our vote. Not a peep would you have heard about your best interest—it was all about them.

“Ben Phillips, spokesman for CSEA/SEIU Local 2001, said that was not true. Representatives have been telling members they will lose their contracts if they vote to have no union representation, which is one the options on the ballot, he said.”

So, is that finally an admission that the only realistic way we’d ever lose our contract is if anyone were stupid enough to vote for “no representation?” Okay, just don’t do that (or jump in front of a train on the way to work).

By the way, where’s Matty O? Wasn’t there a spokesman over there at SEIU by the name of Matty O?

“Phillips said members have gotten over the anger that surrounded last summer’s contract negotiations.”

Oops! That little slip of honesty didn’t last long, did it Ben?

“‘We don’t really see them as someone who should be representing state workers,’ he said. “

Didn’t I read somewhere that your union no longer has “state employees” in its name? I read they legally changed their name from “Connecticut State Employees Association” to just the 4 letters “CSEA”. (Actually, it’s even worse: it’s now 8 letters long—CSEA/SEIU) Are they finally admitting that they don’t represent “state employees” anymore? (Not that we didn’t figure that out already.) Ask Ben about that if you ever see him. Ask him if state employees are a minority now in what was once their own union. Must be a cue for state employees to bow out now.

“It was a unique moment in time, it happened in the middle of contentious negotiations surrounding the contract. That’s passed. People realize they have strong union backing.

Oh yeah? Ask them where your 3% is going! Seems like “strong union backing” would involve taking Malloy to court to force them to comply with the contract and deposit all Retiree Health Care Trust Fund contributions into an irrevocable trust fund for our own future health care. Here’s where it’s going instead:

“As allocations to the fund from other sources increase and more cash becomes available, Nappier added, ‘my office will be prepared to employ a long-term investment strategy. Until then, any fund assets will continue to be maintained in the common cash pool with any positive balances earning interest at the common cash pool rate.’”

The common cash pool. With a negative balance.

Malloy is just spending it as fast as it rolls in! Where’s your trusty union? Ask Ben about that, too. He probably won’t admit that in order to live up to their shady backroom dealings with Malloy, they’ve got to look the other way on this.

Upset Citizen has it right. Run, don’t walk, from SEIU. If you ever get nervous about the change, just ask yourself this: How could it get any worse than the crap SEIU pulled on you last summer?


posted by: gompers | July 24, 2012  11:19am

NCEU is a business masquerading as a union.  It is affiliated with UPSEU and its parent fake union, IUJAT.  IUJAT has been linked to the Genovese crime family.  Two of its locals were busted by the FBI in April.  This can be easily found through a Google search.  These sort of scams steal from the members and weaken the labor movement.

posted by: voteoutbullymalloy14 | July 24, 2012  7:57pm

without the slightest of hesitation vote out bullymalloys bed partners CSEA/SEIU and send them packing now, and get represented by a real union.and then in 2014 send pathalogical inept bully malloy packing down the same road.

posted by: Major Shmuck | July 26, 2012  9:53am

Major Shmuck

Gompers:  really?  This argument is so old and so wrong.  Google SEIU and corruption! 

CSEA is going out of business!  I would not even give them a dollar for their POS building

Will someone PLEASE pick up the dog crap in front of that POS building

posted by: rankandfile | July 26, 2012  10:15am

gompers, just search for “Soucy” on this site to find out the current union’s connection to FBI investigations and criminal activity. As for NCEU being a business, isn’t it actually a non-profit? And when it comes to stealing from members and weakening the labor movement, no one holds a candle to the SEBAC syndicate.

posted by: rankandfile | July 26, 2012  1:16pm

I just saw a report that a former union official, David Moffa, was arrested in the Donovan scandal. Wasn’t he the president of an AFSCME local?

posted by: perturbed | July 26, 2012  10:28pm


Here’s something to think about:

Ever since SEBAC 2011 took effect, Malloy has been stealing 3% of state employees’ wages—the 3% of our wages that is legally required to be placed in an irrevocable trust fund for our own future health care—and spending it. While that has been going on, for nearly a year now, SEIU has concentrated their full attention not on forcing Malloy to fund the health care trust fund but on preventing your vote to leave SEIU!

So while Malloy was busy spending 3% of our wages—and blowing some of that on legal aid for SEIU at the Labor Board hearings—SEIU was busy spending our union dues on more high-priced lawyers to fight against their own members’ rights. Now that’s teamwork!

And now the Malloy/SEIU team think they deserve the right to continue to “represent” (that’s spelled “s-c-r-e-w”) us? Is this some kind of joke?


posted by: perturbed | July 26, 2012  10:39pm


More to think about:

A pattern has emerged that clearly shows Malloy and SEIU are on the same side, and when they team up state workers lose. Why on earth would state employees want to have these political partners “negotiate” (spelled “c-o-n-s-p-i-r-e”) together to establish the terms of your wage contract? We’ve already seen the results this team produces for us.

Here are a few examples of their teamwork (please feel free to add more examples):

► SEIU fights hard to get Malloy elected, and it was so close, the union support could have been the deciding factor.

► SEIU and AFSCME team up with Malloy in absolute secrecy to draft the terms of our new wage and benefits agreements, and SEIU and AFSCME hand Malloy an unprecedented concession package that produces huge, long-term structural reductions in our pensions. Never before had the pension promises made to existing Connecticut employees been broken, but SEIU actually preferred that over short-term concessions like furloughs.

► SEIU and AFSCME teamed up with Malloy and the legislature to ram those concessions down our throats, even resorting to voluntarily weakening collective bargaining in Connecticut by lowering the ratification bar to a simple majority.

► Malloy pays SEIU and AFSCME back by agreeing to a major component of SustiNet—a pooling bill. Both national unions and SEBAC had fought tirelessly for health care reform in Connecticut, and after years of fighting adversarial governors, they are finally able to buy off Malloy’s support for part of it by giving up our pensions.

► When we finally say we’ve had enough, and petition to join other unions, Malloy comes to the aid of SEIU and AFSCME, providing state lawyers (and pressure within the Labor Board?) to assist in the challenge to our right to vote for different representation.

► Malloy comes to the aid of SEIU again by issuing two executive orders that pave the way for SEIU to “organize” home health care workers (just like other governors have done for SEIU), providing SEIU with more members—and more importantly, more dues.

► Most recently, Malloy helps SEIU politically by joining a picket line against Healthbridge, a New Jersey-based nursing home company. (Notice, SEIU is protecting private sector benefits in this case, where SEIU still has hopes to rope in more members, and where Malloy doesn’t have to pay for their benefits. State workers, on the other hand, are just one more bargaining chip to SEIU and political pawns to Malloy.)

So here’s what you lucky people with a choice need to think about: Who do you really want negotiating your next contract with you—one of Malloy’s political partners (who owes Malloy another favor), or an independent agent who owes Malloy nothing and will bargain based solely on your best interests, working confidentially with you, not Malloy?

When Malloy and SEIU team up, the record shows, we state employees get screwed.


posted by: perturbed | July 27, 2012  8:02am


@ gompers: SEIU is a huge national political action committee masquerading as a union.

The only reason they bother with the union charade anymore is because it allows them to extort political contributions from their members by calling them “union dues.”

Here’s a glimpse at the corrupt activities they chose to spend those forced political contributions on: Illinois Scandal Spotlights SEIU’s Use of Political Tactics


posted by: RJEastHartford | July 29, 2012  11:09am

Screwed with highly subsidized/free health insurance in retirement. Since you are currently employed, what was your co-pay for your last medical procedure, prescription? If you are complaining now, how long will these posts become when the politicians take it all? You can align with any group or organization, but the politicians are hearing the call of the private sector. Talk to your neighbor, perhaps your issues pale, and should pale in comparison.