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Competing Gun Proposals Left to Legislative Leadership

by Hugh McQuaid & Christine Stuart | Mar 5, 2013 5:44pm
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Hugh McQuaid Photo (Updated 8:04 p.m.) Despite agreement on several concepts, Democrats and Republicans on the legislature’s bipartisan gun violence subcommittee issued separate sets of recommendations on gun violence prevention almost three months after the Newtown shooting that claimed the lives of 20 children and six educators.

The two lists overlap in a number of areas, but Democrats led their recommendations with proposals to expand the state’s list of banned assault rifles, limiting the military-style features to one and prohibiting high-capacity ammunition magazines. Neither proposal appeared on the list compiled by Republicans.

Click here to read the Democratic recommendations and here to read the Republican recommendations.

Their inclusion in the list of Democratic recommendations hints that the majority party is unwilling to yield on the legislative response to the December Newtown murders. Lawmakers are expected to emergency certify a bill to the floor later this month.

Senate Majority Leader Martin Looney, who co-chaired the task force, said that what ends up in that legislation will be negotiated by leaders of both parties. But the final decision will be made by Senate President Donald Williams and House Speaker Brendan Sharkey, both Democrats.

“The next phase is for all the leaders to get together, and ultimately for the speaker and president pro tem to sign off on the content for an E-cert bill,” he said.

Sharkey, who has worked hard at forming bipartisan consensus on more than just guns, said he would have liked to see the Democrats and Republicans on the committee reach a “consensus on stronger recommendations.” That includes “strengthening the assault weapon ban and banning high capacity magazines,” Sharkey said in a statement.

During Tuesday’s meeting, Looney and Rep. Craig Miner, his Republican co-chairman, stressed the areas where the two parties recommendations overlapped. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle agreed on proposals like universal background checks, banning the sale of armor piercing bullets, increasing penalties for certain firearms violations, increasing the requirements to purchase ammunition, as well as various other recommendations.

But both said they agreed last week to put forward separate proposals.

Speaking for the Republican members of the task force, Miner said they agreed to certain restrictions, like requiring buyers to be 21 years old before purchasing some long guns, but there were fundamental objections to banning weapons or magazines.

“We believe it’s not the gun that actually kills the person, it’s the person who kills the person. That’s number one, it sounds pretty cold but that’s the way it is,” he said.

While Miner and Looney seemed comfortable with issuing separate recommendations, several Republican lawmakers expressed concern that the task force wasn’t putting forward a unified list. Depending upon what ends up in the final legislation, some were concerned they wouldn’t be able to support the bill.

Hugh McQuaid Photo Sen. John Kissel, R-Enfield, said he expected each of the three legislative subcommittees to propose recommendations upon which they agreed.

“I’m wondering where we go from here because I don’t think we will have fulfilled our mission if we just pass on two lists,” he said.

Miner said that when he agreed to chair the task force he also expected to find consensus between the members. However, he described the two months of committee work as a learning experience.

“Many of these issues, I don’t think are resolvable in two months time,” he said.

The legislature’s bipartisan Super Committee was created Jan. 15 by legislative leaders and included three subcommittees focused on gun control, mental health, and school safety. The first public hearing of the gun control subcommittee lasted 17 hours and attracted thousands. The committee held four public hearings before making its recommendations.

The legislature’s other two subcommittees put together proposals on which both parties agreed. Looney said his committee was charged with handling a more controversial subject.

“We certainly had some issues of greater polarity than the other task forces had to deal with,” Looney said. “In that sense the body of issues we had to deal with were somewhat more contentious and less likely to be readily resolvable at this state.”

Robert Crook, executive director of the Coalition of Connecticut Sportsmen, said he wasn’t surprised the two parties did not reach consensus on some items. He described that as a “dreamland” scenario. He said his organization opposes most of what Democrats put forward Tuesday.

Christine Stuart Photo Crook said that if there’s a public hearing on whatever consensus legislative leaders reach “we’ll show up with crowds and facts.”

“Any gun bill you pass is not going to stop a thing like Sandy Hook,” Crook said. “It has no relevance to the situation except that it was a tool that was being used.”

He said the real problem is the “mental defectives.”

Crook didn’t oppose recommendations like closing the loophole on the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and re-establishing the gun trafficking task force or creating tougher penalties for gun crimes. The stuff he opposes requires law abiding gun owners to pay more money for permits or give up their high capacity magazines without compensation.

Though they put forward one unified list, the legislature’s bipartisan mental health services working group reached consensus on only four of 25 recommendations when they met earlier Tuesday.

The group agreed to promote mental health first aid training, case coordination for individuals with mental illness who interact with the Probate Courts, implementation of a program similar to the Massachusetts Child Psychiatry Access Project to train pediatricians, and creation of a mental health task force.

Those are the four recommendations that will be forwarded to legislative leaders along with the 21 non-consensus items the group discussed prior to its final meeting Tuesday.

The strongest of the recommendations the group made was the creation of the task force, which will look at improving early intervention, closing the gaps in private insurance coverage, improving case management, addressing the shortage of psychiatric professionals, the delivery of services, and model of mental health delivery for young adults.

“The system sort of developed in an ad hoc fashion,” Sen. Toni Harp, D-New Haven, who co-chaired the working group, said. “You have adults from 18 to 25 and children from about birth to age 15, so you have a whole group of people that get left out.”

State Healthcare Advocate Victoria Veltri issued a report in January about the state’s mental health system. But she doesn’t believe another task force would be recreating the wheel since those findings weren’t conclusive and called for further investigation.

Rep. Terrie Wood, R-Darien, the other co-chair of the working group, said she thinks the discussion about the mental health infrastructure in the state is still a discussion that needs to be had.

“It is a system that’s not working as well as it could,” Wood said.

The mental health services working group could not find agreement on expanding the look back period for gun permit applications. Currently, the look back period is only a year. They also passed on asking gun permit applicants whether anyone in their household is under the care of a mental health professional.

Wood said the working group felt that was a question that should be tackled by the gun prevention subcommittee because it deals directly with application of guns.

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posted by: Noteworthy | March 5, 2013  7:32pm

Each element of these law changes, enchancements and fees, should be tested against Sandy Hook - would it have changed/prevented that outcome. If it wouldn’t, it should be scrapped and turned aside. This is not, or should not be used by Democrats who hate guns and gun owners, to trample their rights, or extract heavy fees from those who abide by the law to support liberal wet dreams of gun confiscation and making life miserable for those with whom they disagree.

posted by: Fisherman | March 5, 2013  8:41pm

Well said, Noteworthy… I would just add that once the lawyers and caucuses for minorities wake-up to the fact that these “mandatory” penalties for being caught with a gun will impact their groups disproportionally, the Democrats will surely change their tune…

posted by: dano860 | March 5, 2013  11:51pm

Noteworthy you are correct.
The Dems threw in every lousy thought they could come up with just to see what will stick.
Williams and Sharkey will push the whole package because it will provide them a snare to take the law abiding people’s firearms.
This is just the start of confiscation.
This should guarantee them their last term if they vote for it. Finally!

posted by: Chien DeBerger | March 6, 2013  8:15am

Noteworthy, Fisherman, and dano860-
Amen and Amen!

posted by: Matt W. | March 6, 2013  1:01pm

Matt W.

Noteworthy, You nailed it.  Here we are 3 months later and they still have yet to address the atual issue.  Even on something as serious as this, they cannot reject the urge to use it for political gain.  It’s all very ugly.

posted by: 2nd Ammendment | March 6, 2013  1:17pm

This State has Medical Health help and follow through issues not responsible gun owner issues. I suggest that if the Congress people can not follow the Constitution and the Bill of Right they have sworn to uphold they should resign.  This goes for both the State and Federal Reps. Nothing that anyone has suggested would have helped to prevent Sandy Hook.  God help those poor children and families deal with those actions of a madman.  Sickness is what caused it, we have to allow school teachers to help.  Right now a teacher can not look at medical records or issues, they can not even officially meet to talk about a child’s medical problems.  This has to stop!  Actions in the early school years and later need to be documented not pushed under the rug.  Help those who need help do not hinder law abiding citizens from lawful gun ownership.

posted by: ad_ebay | March 6, 2013  1:48pm

“I think we have met the charge of what we need to do,” said Senate Majority Leader Martin Looney, D-New Haven, the other subcommittee co-chairman. “It’s quite clear that there is consensus on items and not on others.”

What claptrap!  This is doing the job?  How do they justify the salary and perks?  Truly lives up to his name!